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Well, I know I should have said 'a' route since Tucson's grid system provides cyclists great options for getiing somewhere from where ever. I had never attempted to get from 22nd to the Aviation bikeway and Palo Verde seemed the most direct way. Bikes routes up to now seem to have evolved from a majority of bike traffic. It will be interesting to see if the Bike Boulevard (create the route and they will ride it) style will be embraced by cyclists. The thinking is that these routes will appeal to and encourage new bike commuters.

Well, I know I should have said 'a' route since Tucson's grid system provides cyclists great options for getiing somewhere from where ever. I had never attempted to get from 22nd to the Aviation bikeway and Palo Verde seemed the most direct way. Bikes routes up to now seem to have evolved from a majority of bike traffic. It will be interesting to see if the Bike Boulevard (create the route and they will ride it) style will be embraced by cyclists. The thinking is that these routes will appeal to and encourage new bike commuters.

"I was out today and scoped the route between the Rillito and Aviation bikeways." (Coghauler says: January 26, 2010 at 8:00 PM) NB: "...the route..." as if there is only the Coghauler route. Ignore Craycroft and Treat Bikeway. And so many others. Spread a little thin, bicycle bureaucrats? Anyway, the bland though "strange" signaled crossing between 22nd and Reid Park is a disgrace for cyclists, pedestrians, and motorists. And leave that last 100 feet as dirt...the unwitting irony is worth preserving...

"I was out today and scoped the route between the Rillito and Aviation bikeways." (Coghauler says: January 26, 2010 at 8:00 PM) NB: "...the route..." as if there is only the Coghauler route. Ignore Craycroft and Treat Bikeway. And so many others. Spread a little thin, bicycle bureaucrats? Anyway, the bland though "strange" signaled crossing between 22nd and Reid Park is a disgrace for cyclists, pedestrians, and motorists. And leave that last 100 feet as dirt...the unwitting irony is worth preserving...

I was out today and scoped the route between the Rillito and Aviation bikeways. The city could tidy up the route and make a couple accommodations, but basically it's all there. Dodge Blvd. works from the Rillito and is a bike route to Speedway. That awkward crossing could be improved. Dodge at 5th St. is a little better. Dodge at Broadway is OK. Then taking Randolph Way there is a signaled crossing (though rather strange) at 22nd. I did not know that was there. Then Palo Verde goes almost all the rest of the way until a 100 foot dirt path connects two cul-de sacs. This would be very easy to create bike access as an asphalt path and you are right there at the 34th St. intersection with the Aviation bikeway. It would have been nice if El Con Mall had maintained the access to the Northwest corner using Jones Ave. I think that was supposed to have been done but...you know.

I was out today and scoped the route between the Rillito and Aviation bikeways. The city could tidy up the route and make a couple accommodations, but basically it's all there. Dodge Blvd. works from the Rillito and is a bike route to Speedway. That awkward crossing could be improved. Dodge at 5th St. is a little better. Dodge at Broadway is OK. Then taking Randolph Way there is a signaled crossing (though rather strange) at 22nd. I did not know that was there. Then Palo Verde goes almost all the rest of the way until a 100 foot dirt path connects two cul-de sacs. This would be very easy to create bike access as an asphalt path and you are right there at the 34th St. intersection with the Aviation bikeway. It would have been nice if El Con Mall had maintained the access to the Northwest corner using Jones Ave. I think that was supposed to have been done but...you know.

I suspect there are two main reasons why things don't get done in this city: Money and political will.

I suspect there are two main reasons why things don't get done in this city: Money and political will.

I'm put in mind of the old Star Trek episode where the Guardian of Forever says, " A question! Since before your sun burned hot in space and before your race was born, I have awaited a question." Let's hope, Red Star, it doesn't take that long to get a response to yours.

I'm put in mind of the old Star Trek episode where the Guardian of Forever says, " A question! Since before your sun burned hot in space and before your race was born, I have awaited a question." Let's hope, Red Star, it doesn't take that long to get a response to yours.

Now that you've finally gotten terminology out of the way, answer this: If they, your City of Tucson/Pima County transpo friends can do it between Speedway and Whatever (like between Whole Foods and Enterprise Leasing), why can't they do a signaled cross across 22nd between Randolph/Reid Park and Aviation Bikeway?

Now that you've finally gotten terminology out of the way, answer this: If they, your City of Tucson/Pima County transpo friends can do it between Speedway and Whatever (like between Whole Foods and Enterprise Leasing), why can't they do a signaled cross across 22nd between Randolph/Reid Park and Aviation Bikeway?

I like bike activated signals also! I don't understand why we don't have more in this town. It's not always easy to push the crossing buttons when you are carrying things with your bike. Also, the Campbell/River Pathway is a mess. Crossing the bridge on Campbell is dangerous but I have done it several times and each time I think I will never do it again. Either maintain the north side path or pave the south side. It needs to be done. I would be happy if the city focused on connecting the existing paths. I was happy to see the city connect the Stone Ave. bike path between Limberlost & Roger and the downtown crossing that you mentioned yesterday.

I like bike activated signals also! I don't understand why we don't have more in this town. It's not always easy to push the crossing buttons when you are carrying things with your bike. Also, the Campbell/River Pathway is a mess. Crossing the bridge on Campbell is dangerous but I have done it several times and each time I think I will never do it again. Either maintain the north side path or pave the south side. It needs to be done. I would be happy if the city focused on connecting the existing paths. I was happy to see the city connect the Stone Ave. bike path between Limberlost & Roger and the downtown crossing that you mentioned yesterday.

A speed table is a speed bump with a 8-10 foot flattened top. If you draw a crosswalk across the flatened top, you have a raised crosswalk. The idea is to give some prominance to to existance of the two-way bike route using the crosswalk. Meh... I like the bike-activated signals idea a lot...and... connecting the Rilitto and Aviation bikeways would serve much more than just the connection of those two.

Red Star... A speed table is also known as a speed hump. Speed hump on Wikipedia The concept is that the crosswalk would be raised up several inches in the hopes that it would get motorist to slow down. It wouldn't create a bump for cyclist or pedestrians. This is a preliminary idea that they are going to start researching.

Red Star... A speed table is also known as a speed hump. Speed hump on Wikipedia The concept is that the crosswalk would be raised up several inches in the hopes that it would get motorist to slow down. It wouldn't create a bump for cyclist or pedestrians. This is a preliminary idea that they are going to start researching.

"One of the options that the committee decided they would like to investigate is creating a raised crosswalk similar to a speed table, which they thought might slow down the traffic turning off or onto the Aviation Parkway." Two technical terms, definitions please: 1) raised crosswalk 2) speed table It's difficult to interpret the committee's decisions without knowing what they are talking about... But no matter, of course. At any rate, something like the signaled crossing of Speedway between Camino Miramonte and Richey is sorely needed in the Randolph/Reid Park area across 22nd. And across 5th/6th: Shazaaaam! You planners will have connected two dedicated bikeways: Rillito and Aviation.

"One of the options that the committee decided they would like to investigate is creating a raised crosswalk similar to a speed table, which they thought might slow down the traffic turning off or onto the Aviation Parkway." Two technical terms, definitions please: 1) raised crosswalk 2) speed table It's difficult to interpret the committee's decisions without knowing what they are talking about... But no matter, of course. At any rate, something like the signaled crossing of Speedway between Camino Miramonte and Richey is sorely needed in the Randolph/Reid Park area across 22nd. And across 5th/6th: Shazaaaam! You planners will have connected two dedicated bikeways: Rillito and Aviation.

I ride the Aviation (from Golf Links) path nearly everyday, and the intersections are death traps. Nearly all of them have lights, which helps some. But the first highway intersection that the Aviation path crosses coming from the east (Aviation and Richey Blvd) has no light. People basically ignore the stop sign there and blow right through it attempting to turn right on Aviation. I have nearly been hit 3 times now by drivers failing to stop at the stop sign. A good idea that I saw in Albuquerque (I doubt Tucson can afford it however) was to put lights that turned red when a cyclist was coming. Like the crosswalks around town, but with motion sensors on the path to trigger them instead of a button. If this cannot be done, a normal light needs to be installed at Richey, that intersection is the absolute worst!

I ride the Aviation (from Golf Links) path nearly everyday, and the intersections are death traps. Nearly all of them have lights, which helps some. But the first highway intersection that the Aviation path crosses coming from the east (Aviation and Richey Blvd) has no light. People basically ignore the stop sign there and blow right through it attempting to turn right on Aviation. I have nearly been hit 3 times now by drivers failing to stop at the stop sign. A good idea that I saw in Albuquerque (I doubt Tucson can afford it however) was to put lights that turned red when a cyclist was coming. Like the crosswalks around town, but with motion sensors on the path to trigger them instead of a button. If this cannot be done, a normal light needs to be installed at Richey, that intersection is the absolute worst!

Those Aviation Bike Path crossings are a real problem. I had a guy who was hit in one and threatened with a ticket for riding in a crosswalk. Drivers don't know how to deal with them and neither do cyclists. A similar problem is the East side of the Santa Cruz bike path where it crosses Congress. It spits you right into high-speed traffic and your options for crossing are all terrible ones that involve narrow sidewalks, high curbs, bad pavement, high speed traffic turning into gas stations, and multiple traffic lights next to a freeway. Good grief!

Those Aviation Bike Path crossings are a real problem. I had a guy who was hit in one and threatened with a ticket for riding in a crosswalk. Drivers don't know how to deal with them and neither do cyclists. A similar problem is the East side of the Santa Cruz bike path where it crosses Congress. It spits you right into high-speed traffic and your options for crossing are all terrible ones that involve narrow sidewalks, high curbs, bad pavement, high speed traffic turning into gas stations, and multiple traffic lights next to a freeway. Good grief!